tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post115529702058726196..comments2024-03-28T22:59:15.275+04:00Comments on UAE Community Blog: US Mideast Policy and the Israel Lobbysecretdubaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13115610824191031176noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-1155369617094008702006-08-12T12:00:00.000+04:002006-08-12T12:00:00.000+04:00Oddly, this all powerful group for whom any rule c...<I>Oddly, this all powerful group for whom any rule can be changed have been - with the exception of Clinton - unable to get their choice of president elected for decades. How bizarre!</I><BR/><BR/>Thats not bizarre. Actually the AIPAC has tough time deciding which of the presidential candidates is more pro-Israel. Thats so much confusion. How bizarre is this!! <BR/><I><BR/>I can tell you that all media organizations in the US, whatever their position on Israel, are going to want this law changed, because it would mean an end to their being able to publish leaked information.</I><BR/><BR/>Is there any other entity in the US thats more pro-Israel than the media? Remember, the Jewish-controlled media and Hollywood.<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>The Israeli lobby in the US is very effective for many reasons.</I><BR/><BR/>Money, is that one? Or the most significant one? You can call it by many names - donations, war-chest and a million other names, I call it bribes that decide the way the President and the Congress are going to act.1234dsfshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10622112642066981580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-1155367603882208602006-08-12T11:26:00.000+04:002006-08-12T11:26:00.000+04:00brn,You've got your line of causation backwards. T...brn,<BR/><BR/>You've got your line of causation backwards. The Israeli lobby doesn't just influence American policy, it makes it. (Tom Hayden, former congressman from LA, talked recently about Jewish Democratic party kingmakers when he ran in 1980. They said basically you can have any position you want, but you gotta support Israel. Which he did. Through 1982 and beyond.) <BR/><BR/>And not just US policy. Any news in a paper or on TV that's critical -- you're an anti-semite. Simple. Professor that's critical of Israel -- anti-semite.<BR/><BR/>The US govt does something because of the people's demands? Stop reading 11th grade civics textbooks. In my country, the tail wags the dog. The tail being well funded and organized lobbies, primarily AIPAC, big oil, big pharma and others of the MNC variety. The people are a mild inconvenience, their wants are irrelevant except at election time, and even then, not so much.bklyn_in_dubaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07444698862639188413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-1155366999681896542006-08-12T11:16:00.000+04:002006-08-12T11:16:00.000+04:00They have the power to change the law of the most ...<EM>They have the power to change the law of the most powerful country in the world to suit their requirements. </EM><BR/><BR/>Oddly, this all powerful group for whom any rule can be changed have been - with the exception of Clinton - unable to get their choice of president elected for decades. How bizarre!Tim Newmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12037178111868843708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-1155327077203327862006-08-12T00:11:00.000+04:002006-08-12T00:11:00.000+04:00ahmed,They do not have the power to "change the la...ahmed,<BR/><BR/>They do not have the power to "change the law". They do have the ability, as everyone in the US does, to lobby the congress to change the law. I can tell you that all media organizations in the US, whatever their position on Israel, are going to want this law changed, because it would mean an end to their being able to publish leaked information. For example, there would have been no information about the US government listening in on internation calls released if this had been the understanding of the law at that time.<BR/><BR/>The Israeli lobby in the US is very effective for many reasons. But influence is not control. The majority of the American people support Israel, and that is why the government does too.Brnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18242601851481279077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-1155318158610380302006-08-11T21:42:00.000+04:002006-08-11T21:42:00.000+04:00Just an idea of how much power the Israeli lobby h...Just an idea of how much power the Israeli lobby has in the US, heres something that a judge said:<BR/><I><BR/>However in his conclusion, Ellis did call on lawmakers to consider updating the Espionage Act to reflect the changes that have taken place in the 90 years since it has been approved.</I><BR/><BR/>Two members of AIPAC have been charged with espionage. Imagine this: They have the power to change the law of the most powerful country in the world to suit their requirements. Read more <A HREF="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525850170&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull" REL="nofollow">here</A>.<BR/><BR/>The jewish electorate is just 3% in the US. I wonder why they have this much influence. A person in a democracy has one vote - regardless of the level of education or the amount of money he has. Seriously, I have doubts about the US Democratic System as a whole.1234dsfshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10622112642066981580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-1155315845605420532006-08-11T21:04:00.000+04:002006-08-11T21:04:00.000+04:00Thanks for this extremely interesting post. It wil...Thanks for this extremely interesting post. It will take me a while to read through the whole paper and comment on it, but I did want to point out that Israel and its policies are a huge point of debate among academics, not quite as much in the US, but definitely in the UK. Academic unions in the UK regularly talk about boycotting Israel. Here is a link to info on recent talks regarding this:<BR/>http://insidehighered.com/news/2006/05/12/boycott<BR/>Shows yet again the differences btw US and Europe in what can and can't be said about Israel. I have a feeling this paper would not have come across as much controversy on the other side of the Atlantic.nativeinformanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01962592545629320002noreply@blogger.com