tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post1983592657022695883..comments2024-03-28T22:59:15.275+04:00Comments on UAE Community Blog: Book not banned?secretdubaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13115610824191031176noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-28204328421144414082008-09-19T18:49:00.000+04:002008-09-19T18:49:00.000+04:00Mr. Hellyer:I appreciate your taking the time to w...<B>Mr. Hellyer</B>:<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your taking the time to write back extensively to Mr. Chilton (at his blog) and here.<BR/><BR/>What I am going to do now is find this book and read it. I guess that's the best step forward before jumping to conclusion(s).<BR/><BR/>Thank you :)<BR/><BR/>Best, KyleKylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249412273016951816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-77248107175536843942008-09-19T18:22:00.000+04:002008-09-19T18:22:00.000+04:00The NMC's Peter Hellyer responds here. (3rd commen...The NMC's Peter Hellyer responds <A HREF="http://emirateseconomist.blogspot.com/2008/09/where-does-truth-lie-on-davidsons-book.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>. (3rd comment.)John B. Chiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208312356775869565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-43480201386075336742008-09-19T12:14:00.000+04:002008-09-19T12:14:00.000+04:00Kyle said:"Mr. Hellyer can up with as many counter...Kyle said:<BR/><BR/>"Mr. Hellyer can up with as many counter-arguments and label them 'a plethora of errors'. However, he seems to forget that errors exist in every country / system in this world."<BR/><BR/>Yes, of course errors exist in every country and system. In the UAE, and everywhere else. And in books that purport to be based on exhaustive research.<BR/>I made no counter-arguments of any kind in my statements. I just said that the book had a plethora of errors - and cited just three of them. And I didn't say that the book itself was "a plethora of errors" - just that there WERE "a plethora of errors" in it. <BR/><BR/>Come on - the book says there was no all-weather road between Abu Dhabi and Dubai until the mid-1990s, and no all weather road between Dubai and Fujairah until 2006. That's not only inaccurate, but pretty sloppy in my view. The author was actually living in the UAE from at least 2004 to 2006. Didn't he ever go to the East Coast? And with mistakes like that, it's reasonable, i would think, to examine some of the other statements more closely. <BR/><BR/>Kyle says again:<BR/>"As a media man, he should know that it takes a brave man to own up and admit those errors so that counter-measures are put into place to fix those errors."<BR/> <BR/>I'm happy to admit my mistakes - but the errors of which I spoke were those of the author of the book, not mine. <BR/>The NMC didn't jump into rapid action to review the book when it was first submitted, in August - but that is a holiday month. But it went through the process pretty rapidly after that.<BR/>The publisher says that the book was sent to bookshops in June - two months before it was even submitted for review. The bookshops and distributors know very well that books can't be sold before they've been approved, so why did the publisher wait until August before formally submitting the book for review? <BR/>Anyway, UAE residents can read the book for themselves now, like anyone else. Many, I think, will pick up some of the errors. <BR/>If the book sets out to present itself as an academic analysis, it's reasonable to expect it to be accurate. If it has "a plethora" of easily-identifiable errors, and it has, it's also reasonable, in my view, to question the quality of the research that went into it. <BR/>It's a real pity, in my view, that there ARE so many mistakes in the book - that takes away from the value of the rest of it. <BR/><BR/>Finally, Kyle says:<BR/>"The right thing for him to do (that is if he has any power) is to use that power to recommend corrective measures."<BR/><BR/>Yes, indeed. We'll be submitting an extensive - if not exhaustive - list of the errors to the publisher. Perhaps they can be corrected if the book goes into a second edition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-25867477032541640372008-09-18T02:41:00.000+04:002008-09-18T02:41:00.000+04:00As a law graduate i know this is vry libellous, ev...As a law graduate i know this is vry libellous, even in UAE. Two people are discussed by name but they didnt allow the victim person to comment. I will never be able to trust the national again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-73337276061655506332008-09-18T01:25:00.000+04:002008-09-18T01:25:00.000+04:00http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/sep/15/uae.de...http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/<BR/><BR/>2008/sep/15/uae.denies.banned.book<BR/><BR/>long link more than two linesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-24351147365261074572008-09-17T20:47:00.000+04:002008-09-17T20:47:00.000+04:00Real story here perhaps?http://www.guardian.co.uk/...Real story here perhaps?<BR/><BR/>http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/sep/15/uae.denies.banned.bookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-57093890114522065252008-09-17T17:07:00.000+04:002008-09-17T17:07:00.000+04:00Mr. Hellyer can up with as many counter-arguments ...Mr. Hellyer can up with as many counter-arguments and label them <B>'a plethora of errors'</B>. However, he seems to forget that errors exist in every country / system in this world. <BR/><BR/>As a media man, he should know that it takes a brave man to own up and admit those errors so that counter-measures are put into place to fix those errors. <BR/><BR/>By simply labeling Mr. Davidson's book <I>'a plethora of errors'</I> proves that he is living in denial along with the people who issue his paycheck. The right thing for him to do (that is if he has any power) is to use that power to recommend corrective measures.Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11249412273016951816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-45863853624989659802008-09-17T09:01:00.000+04:002008-09-17T09:01:00.000+04:00I have just finished reading the book and it is ex...I have just finished reading the book and it is excellent. Yes there may be the odd fact in the book which is incorrect, or the year is slightly wrong. However almost every statement in the book is backed up by a reference allowing the reader to check the sources.<BR/><BR/>I'd highly recommend the book to anyone wishing to get a better impression of the Emirates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-24838306555610854362008-09-17T08:58:00.000+04:002008-09-17T08:58:00.000+04:00I have just finished reading the book and it is ex...I have just finished reading the book and it is excellent. Yes there may be the odd fact in the book which is incorrect, or the year is slightly wrong. However almost every statement in the book is backed up by a reference allowing the reader to check the sources.<BR/><BR/>I'd highly recommend the book to anyone wishing to get a better impression of the Emirates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com