tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post606235965756769307..comments2024-03-27T15:47:17.599+04:00Comments on UAE Community Blog: Road pricing...secretdubaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13115610824191031176noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-34694540096601093732007-02-24T12:02:00.000+04:002007-02-24T12:02:00.000+04:00Secret Dubai reminds us that even cycling is banne...Secret Dubai reminds us that <A HREF="http://secretdubai.blogspot.com/2007/02/recipe-for-congestion-cake.html" REL="nofollow">even cycling is banned in Dubai</A>. As it is in Sharjah.John B. Chiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208312356775869565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-19712051638729385792007-02-24T11:19:00.000+04:002007-02-24T11:19:00.000+04:00publius,Actually, Dubai's plan for SZR has no toll...publius,<BR/><BR/>Actually, Dubai's plan for SZR has no toll booths. The money will be vacuumed off a prepaid card.<BR/><BR/>Of course I agree with your point that if the collection system is not efficient congestion charges make little if any sense.John B. Chiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208312356775869565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-22983287926039842082007-02-24T11:09:00.000+04:002007-02-24T11:09:00.000+04:00You guys are weird, u dont have the information ye...You guys are weird, u dont have the information yet u complain.<BR/><BR/>The floating bridge and Ras Al Khail bridge will be opened that time. So instead of whining start using ur brain for once.<BR/><BR/>@bd, I agree with u. Some people throw comments without basis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-60590911501347749612007-02-22T22:03:00.000+04:002007-02-22T22:03:00.000+04:00RTA needs to reduce the number of cars on SZR so t...RTA needs to reduce the number of cars on SZR so that they can close more lanes. This will greatly speed up the constuction of Dubai Metro Station.<BR/><BR/>Ofcourse I don't see the number of cars decreasing overall, just on SZR.Krishnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01720085140813405176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-71743219699062993732007-02-22T21:58:00.000+04:002007-02-22T21:58:00.000+04:00In a perfect world, John, the congestion tax you e...In a perfect world, John, the congestion tax you envision would pop out of the air as you drive by at 120k. However, if you have ever driven a road that has such tolls, you know that toll booths add their own, not-so-stealthy tax, one on your TIME, as you sit in long lines waiting to pay the charge. Do you imagine, for an instant, that they will actually have an efficient collection system? No, of course not: to do so would require lanes and lanes of booths, space that just isn't available. The majority of motorists won't get the wireless charge tags, and the long, long tailbacks on already overstretched roads will help contribute to the gridlock that already exists.<BR/><BR/>It's lovely to live in a perfect theoretical world where congestion charges can be vaccuumed from space, but we live here, in the UAE, where inefficiency is tragically the norm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-13513645943291152772007-02-22T21:50:00.000+04:002007-02-22T21:50:00.000+04:00"But will you give up your car if your bus is as l..."But will you give up your car if your bus is as likely to be stuck in traffic and it's not free?"<BR/><BR/>Simple logic would suggest that if public transport is good and ppl start using it trafic will surely reduce unless... each person using public transport also drives the car at the same time or as one person starts to use the public trasport, you immediatley get another with a car in his place (and makes sure he uses the car not the public trasport). Another point is that people working in offices (actually working)will benefit from using the public transport. No need to do the addition work of a driver, lesser risk of accidents, can atually relax while going to work and back, can attend mobile calls, no risk of jumping red signal, getting caught in the yellow box, no risk of getting worked up because people will not allow you to change lanes or jump into the lane in front of you without using indicators. Socially to ppl will get to meet ppl from other offices not just their own office. Finally it will be economical as if can be made efficient. There is not need for tolls and it will certainly be ecofriendly which could be the biggest benefit for the future generations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-81444657850883624992007-02-22T15:48:00.000+04:002007-02-22T15:48:00.000+04:00The public transportation here will never be as go...<I>The public transportation here will never be as good and convenient like in europe.</I><BR/><BR/>And this statement is based on ?? Perhaps looking into a crystal ball? While such systems take years, even decades to evolve and be built, Dubai's extensive metro system is already on the way. 2009, 10 or 11 hardly seem like never to me.<BR/><BR/>J.C. I don't get the initials SKR. Shouldn't it be SZR for Sheikh Zayed Road?B.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03604898558343997616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-39287817601955820012007-02-22T13:52:00.001+04:002007-02-22T13:52:00.001+04:00imagine people using maktoum instead of garhoud......imagine people using maktoum instead of garhoud....that would be murderous....Stainedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718001009325538247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-19680826425262484992007-02-22T13:52:00.000+04:002007-02-22T13:52:00.000+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stainedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718001009325538247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-55235917233995020302007-02-22T12:14:00.000+04:002007-02-22T12:14:00.000+04:00I understand the issue with lack of alternative mo...I understand the issue with lack of alternative modes of transport. I still see alternatives.<BR/><BR/>1. carpooling (keep reading!)<BR/>2. switching to driving off peak (keep reading!) if your work schedule allows it<BR/>3. using alternative routes (keep reading!)<BR/><BR/>There are obstacles/pitfalls to all three.<BR/><BR/>1. There are regulations against money changing hands for carpooling. These need to be relaxed.<BR/><BR/>2. The proposed design of the SKR toll would have the same fee regardless of time of day. That does not encourage off peak travel.<BR/><BR/>3. Travel on alternative routes is not being priced. Congestion there could be awful. That's a foreseeable consequence and authorities need to think through now how they will respond.John B. Chiltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18208312356775869565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-53580561837353155032007-02-22T11:21:00.000+04:002007-02-22T11:21:00.000+04:00toll should have been put into use when the metro ...toll should have been put into use when the metro had started...it does not make sense to have toll when the only other mode of transportaion is the bus that takes a lot of time to get to an destination...It takes sooo long that If I walk I would reach faster[I've done this]...<BR/>I'm not completely not against the toll idea...I dont expect roads to be free but the timing & the roads chosen for this system makes no sense to me....Stainedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17718001009325538247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-38956216972917782432007-02-22T10:00:00.000+04:002007-02-22T10:00:00.000+04:00this is stealth taxing my friend because our other...this is stealth taxing my friend because our other options dont exist yet or are not as good. Yes after the arrival of monorail it might make sense but not yetbizzwhizzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04721155204703394653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-58955236115583802482007-02-22T09:23:00.000+04:002007-02-22T09:23:00.000+04:00The public transportation here will never be as go...The public transportation here will never be as good and convenient like in europe.clayfuturehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06085804517874130639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15456688.post-61843573256967773052007-02-22T08:20:00.000+04:002007-02-22T08:20:00.000+04:00No, I don't expect public transport to be free, bu...No, I don't expect public transport to be free, but I do expect it to be cheaper and more convenient than using a car. In my home town of Toronto I always use public transit (bus, then subway) to get downtown because a) it is cheaper than paying for parking downtown and b) it is quicker than driving, because most of the journey is via subway and both buses and subways run frequently and on time.<BR/><BR/>Roads do need to be paid for one way or another, and if Dubai wants to adopt the user-pay model I don't have a problem with it, so long as there are viable alternatives. However, as July and the adoption of the road toll looms ever closer, I'm still waiting to see one. My criticism of the toll is only with the timing of its implementation.trailingspousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07423750400387682863noreply@blogger.com