01 November, 2007

What can you say?

An unsettling story from the front page of today's NEW YORK TIMES:
"Just after sunset, Alex says he was rushing to meet his father for dinner when he bumped into an acquaintance, a 17-year-old native-born student at the American school, who said he and his cousin could drop Alex off at home.

There were, in fact, three Emirati men in the car, including a pair of former convicts aged 35 and 18, according to Alex. He says they drove him past his house and into a dark patch of desert, between a row of new villas and a power plant, took away his cell phone, threatened him with a knife and a club, and told him they would kill his family if he ever reported them."
The article goes on:
"Alex and his parents say they chose to go public with his case in the hope that it would pressure the authorities to prosecute the men.

United Arab Emirates law does not recognize rape of males, only a crime called “forced homosexuality.” The two adult men charged with sexually assaulting Alex have pleaded not guilty although sperm from all three were found in Alex. The two adults appeared in court on Wednesday and were appointed a lawyer. They face trial before a three-judge panel on Nov. 7. The third, a minor, will be tried in juvenile court. Legal experts here say that men convicted of sexually assaulting other men usually serve sentences ranging from a few months to two years.

Dubai is a bustling financial and tourist center, one of seven statelets that form the United Arab Emirates. At least 90 percent of the residents of Dubai are not Emirati citizens and many say that Alex’s Kafkaesque legal journey brings into sharp relief questions about unequal treatment of foreigners here that have long been quietly raised among the expatriate majority. The case is getting coverage in the local press.

It also highlights the taboos surrounding H.I.V. and homosexuality that Dubai residents say have allowed rampant harassment of gays and have encouraged the health system to treat H.I.V. virtually in secret. (Under Emirates law, foreigners with H.I.V., or those convicted of homosexual activity, are deported.)

Prosecutors here reject such accusations. “The legal and judicial system in the United Arab Emirates makes no distinction between nationals and non-nationals,” said Khalifa Rashid Bin Demas, head of the Dubai Attorney General’s technical office, in an interview. “All residents are treated equally.”

Dubai’s economic miracle — decades of double-digit growth spurred by investors, foreign companies, and workers drawn to the tax-free Emirates — depends on millions of foreigners, working jobs from construction to senior financial executives. Even many of the criminal court lawyers are foreigners.

Alex’s case has raised diplomatic tensions between the Emirates and France, which has lodged official complaints about the apparent cover-up of one assailant’s H.I.V.-status and other irregularities. The tension, along with growing publicity for the case, seem to have spurred the authorities into action."
"Although rape victims here generally keep quiet, some who have been raped in Dubai have shared testimonials in recent days on boycottdubai.com, a Web site started by Alex’s mother, Véronique Robert."

53 comments:

Anonymous said...
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The Strange Traveller said...

Is there a death penalty here in Dubai? I hope they get punished severely.

Anonymous said...

Its a conspiracy against the french

Kyle said...

These vermin, I guaranty you, will walk away with a slap on the wrist without a rap sheet on file.

While the victim fights for normalcy within his inner self for life.

If there's such thing as justice, I hope those vermin contract priapism for life.

Is there a death penalty here in Dubai? I hope they get punished severely.

I got a better idea.

Creation of chop chop square in weenie village :)

yes i am a stupid fool said...

another negative for dubai. whenwill they learn?

The Strange Traveller said...

When will they learn what?

still the fool said...
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Criminals In Dubai said...

Dubai looks good on the outside but still living in the dark ages on the inside.

Westerners should stay out of there until they modernize their justice system. That poor boy was brutalized and the doctor acted like a savage, too. What most people don't know is that to those dark age Muslims, kafir, like women, are fair game.

Kyle said...

Anonymous @ 01 November, 2007 04:05

What I like about your comment is your discipline and diligence in belting out deliberate typos & grammatical errors, yet you are aware of the UAE Community Blog and know how to post a label comment. At least, write sensibly even if it means attacking someone or their culture.

I won’t say you’re a dilettante because that would accredit you with unwanted credit.

One more thing hotshit, here’s a sincere wish that neither you nor your own endure such a predicament and if they do, may they heal twice as fast, as when they were hurt.

Think about it!

Anonymous said...

If there was such thing as justice, then acloholics and drug dealers should be the 1st ones in line to be executed for causing alot more trouble on the streets and night clubs.

- Indians/Asians will be the 1st target followed by east eauropeans/Africans then comes the other trash (White/Local etc...)

This case will be dismissed like any other, why even bother to post this story while we all know nothing's gonna happen.

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Seabee said...

According to Khaleej Times, the Public Prosecution has asked for the death penalty.

Editor said...

That's just another ridiculous claim in the American press. The news was out last week and the "death penalty" is a major headline.
http://fromthedubaicourts.blogspot.com/2007/10/death-sentence-sought-for-boys-rape.html

smartypans said...

Off topic of course...but isn't it amazing the way they solved the Wafi jewellery heist. Right smart they are, and so quickly too.

Anyone been following the case subsequently?

Anonymous said...

Wake up Dubai, if the UAE want to be on the top or the best in everything; it should start with the basics first (education, health, justice)...then it may consider building the highest towers and the biggest malls.

Anonymous said...

if you have a problem with our justice system u should leave. Better for all of us.

Anonymous said...

Tragic, sad and for sure a crime.
But lets not mix this with the general view of the UAE to the extent one should ask to "boycott" the UAE.
These men should be prosecuted in public and every other pervert should learn a lesson by seeing what happens to those criminals.
Murderers get away with murder in the USA and other "first world countries" their justice system is not the best, so lets take it easy on the UAE will you...
The easy way out is to implement the Shariaa law that is harsh to such criminals and straight forward. Otherwise be patient until the UAE accomodate the multicultral society that it is in its law. OK.

samuraisam said...

anonymous @ 14:21:
"if you have a problem with our justice system u should leave. Better for all of us."

I have a problem with the education system after reading that.
It's amazing how all these patriots pop up and tell everyone to leave while funnily enough the immigration office seems to allow everyone in, could it mean you don't have a clue what the country is aiming for? Or could it mean you and your opinion don't count for shit? I wonder; I doubt your education system will give you the pleasure of being able to figure out either of those answers.

samuraisam said...

"Otherwise be patient until the UAE accomodate the multicultral society that it is in its law."

And this has exactly what to do with multiculturalism?

Anonymous said...

THEY SHOULD BE CONDEMNED AND PUT FOR LIFE IMPRISONMENT.THIS CRIME SHOULD BE PUT WORLD WIDE.WOULD THEY ACCEPT THIS TO HAPPEN TO THEM IN FRANCE.

Anonymous said...

I know one thing if this happens to my kid "god forbid" i'll consult the authorities first,however,if they passed on unpunished, then i'll be the one who will punish them.

Anonymous said...

As much as it is a horrible act,this incident should not be used as a stereotype or a generality to describe Dubai, because the local culture is very respectfull and descent. However, people are very angry at this incident,including me and something should be done to those criminals.Don't forget UAE is still concidered one of the safest places in the world.

ammaro.com said...

wow. something is definately stirring up; lets hope some good comes out of this

Editor said...

It is not true: "That's mostly because we still do not appreciate knowledge, education and the hard work, not to mention, the previous generation is pretty much illiterate ......". Back in 1976 around 30 boys from Al Alain were send to the Royal Academy, Somerset House. Since than until today hundreds of thousands local boys and girls graduated from prominent universities all over the world. ADNOC, ADIA, ADMA and all the rest of the Government bodies are offering scholarships. Some of the major universities are providing scholarships even for talented foreign students. Forty per cent of Edaad scholars are women..............

Anonymous said...

"be patient until the UAE accomodate the multicultral society that it is in its law".

Anon 14:41, would you say the same if it was someone from your family??


"Don't forget UAE is still considered one of the safest places in the world."

Anon 15:18, its mere ASSUMPTION.

Editor said...

How about parents teaching their children to not accept anything from strangers?
Even minors know how to selfguard them selfs.
I am sure such incidents occure all over the world.
But I am not sure if New York Times will report it all.

& it is surprising how such private issue is blown out of proportions all over the Internet.........all the names mentioned and even single detail not saved.
Petty, in the Gulf the Law of Tort is not practiced.......otherwise those people would have asked trillions in damages.

rosh said...

It's very unfortunate this has happened. Please don't confuse Dubai or UAE with actions of 3 perverts.

All said , it is amongst the safest places on earth - and whatever people say of human rights - safety is it's most valued commodity. It's not perfect however, it's much better than many places and have miles to go to achieve equality, transparency and justice for all (which I personally don't think exist in any nation today, in it's truest form)

I pray the 15yr old does not develop HIV. Please say a prayer for him, and let justice take it's course.

SevenSummits said...

My apologies for cross-posting (did already post this on SDs blog)

As Karan Vaswani there correctly mentioned:

“All the money in the world can't make you feel safe when you can't trust local law enforcement or the courts to play fair should you (heaven forbid!) find yourself in a sticky situation.

This statement is just so correct and unfortunately most of what is happing in the UAE is still undisclosed. It is really a legal system that remains a perilous gantlet when it comes to legal protection of foreigners.

Please remember everyone that when it comes to Emiratis dealing with Emiratis this is not our (foreign) business and should be respected under the auspices of their sovereignty! We may have the “responsibility to protect”, but only to a certain degree. (sometimes we should just mind our own business for a change!)

There is currently also a movement based in Germany, that is trying to mobilize EU and other Western citizens that have become victims of the UAE legal system (or better the absence of) to take appropriate actions against those HR violations they have endured.

It can simply not be that someone happens to have the wrong medication in their luggage while traveling to the UAE and ends up in a dirty jail. Alone in 2006 three German women!!! were humiliated (even sexually assaulted) and deprived of all there rights (including the phone call to their embassy) in Dubai. All were forced to sign documents in Arabic without a lawyer present. Apparently there have been similar incidents with Danish, Dutch and Italian citizens, but only the organization knows those details. (to protect those victims)

If anyone knows of any other similar cases, please send me an email sevensummitsuae@yahoo.com and I will link you up with them.

On their agenda is for instance the following:
To suggest a legal proposal that will oblige EU tourist operators to hand out a leaflet to inform people about what is legal in the UAE and what is not (for instance a list of medications that is prohibited in the UAE); to write an open letter to Angela Merkel (among others) about the current situation in the UAE and why this is still being tolerated for purely “economical” interests; same issue but in more delicate way with the US Department of State; keeping HRW, AI and Reporters Without Borders well informed about all those incidents and finally to raise the necessary mass media attention.

If those that have the freedom to take action can achieve some progress, it will also indirectly protect all those vulnerable victims from deprived economies. We are all aware that they are being much more affected, than those of us that are highly privileged!

In this respect:
Dubai truly Scares

Anonymous said...

Do u actually believe New York Times?

Anonymous said...

samuraisam, this is anonymous @ 14:21

Those people are criminals and should rotten in jail or better yet get executed.

My only problem is the ignorants who this crap from New York Times and it is good sometimes to irritate people. I mean if they really care they should consider reading and following the news carefully rather than those stupid silly conspiracy assumptions.

SevenSummits said...

Khaled,
I personally don’t really believe that this is trying to show that you are backward, because it would imply that basically the entire world is pretty antiquated in this respect. Even the most advanced countries in the world are obviously still struggling with the idea of being tolerant in the most absurd fundamentalist way. (e.g. US as in Republicans – except Juliani / Pro Choice?) Well everything that needs to be said in regards to your modernization quest and the way it conflicts with your culture/ adaptation ability was already spilled out in details from various bloggers under our princesses “Golden Days” post, so no need for an instant “recall”.

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Yet, I would like to focus on a common misconception and bring back to mind that rape has absolutely nothing to do with sexual arousal, sexual depriviation or sexual orientation. In fact most men that rape men are not even homosexuals, but heterosexual and homophobic! All these myth are keeping us from comprehending that “rape” is directly connected to our accepted social values or other variables. Most commonly sexual assaults can be regarded as acts of retaliation, frustration, expression of power and an assertion of strength and masculinity.

There are direct correlations between “rape” and the glorification of violence, social frustrations (e.g. youth unempolyment, inequality, opression) and the prevalence of war (insecurity)!!! Much more can be said, but I assume that most of you got the drift.

Moreover I do not believe that recommending the death penalty will be the appropriate response and I sincerely hope that the UAE government will take this unfortunate incident as a warning sign and take a closer look (or ask qualified experts to assist them) to analyze the assailants and figure out their real motivations behind this hideous crime. (Anger? Hate? Boredom? Alienation? Encroachment of a foreign culture? Imposed modernization? Oppression?)

It is really time that they start to take a closer look at those suppressed frustrations (and please don’t tell me that there are none!) among UAE nationals and get away from this “all is perfect” illusion.

Did everyone read this:
….we still do not appreciate knowledge, education and the hard work, not to mention, the previous generation is pretty much illiterate which has lead to this “uninvited” reality.

Wow, this is absolutely great and it is the first time that I heard an Emirati admit to this unfortunate fact in a public forum. (And I deal with those that should on a daily basis!)

“Uninvited reality” very much reflects the fact that if UAE nationals really had a say (as in political participation), the UAE wouldn’t look the way it does today. Of course not, because neither of us foreigners, if from Pakistan, India, Australian or the US) would allow our beloved home to be turned into a playground for foreigners and to be pushed onto the sidelines. Undeniably a one-voice (or clan) society has been tried in other countries and the number of failed states out there should certainly be evidence enough.

Anonymous said...

"Alone in 2006 three German women!!! were humiliated (even sexually assaulted) and deprived of all there rights (including the phone call to their embassy) in Dubai. All were forced to sign documents in Arabic without a lawyer present. Apparently there have been similar incidents with Danish, Dutch and Italian citizens, but only the organization knows those details. (to protect those victims)

If anyone knows of any other similar cases, please send me an email sevensummitsuae@yahoo.com and I will link you up with them."


The jails in the Emirates are exceptionally clean. It is part of the daily routine of the prisoners to clean the premises.

Also there is no procedure obliging any one to sign any legal papers without a lawyer and translator at present.

Women are investigated and questioned by female officers.

The court hearings involving foreigners are not begining until translator steps in next to the foreign party.

The Dubai Courts won an Excellence Award
http://www.dubaicourts.gov.ae/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/COURTS_PORTAL/FILES/PDF/Excellence1.PDF
Especially towards foreigners the authorities are very careful.

As for the countless raped women: useless discussion!
Thousands of seminaked white women are rounding the streets and offering their services for some money. All nationalities are presant including German, French, Finish, Americans, Brazilian etc.

Anonymous said...

It seems one of the rappist was jailed for drug trafficking 4 years ago and released 24months later, isn t it that the same crime carries a life sentence for the foreigners??

Anonymous said...

In your opinion among the Emiratis citizens hat is the percentage of homosexuals (gay or lesbian)??

Khaled-ad said...

Editor,
As far as I know, in the last 5 years and to be more precise in Abu Dhabi, no one that I know travelled abroad for the sake of gaining knowledge. They themselves admitted to me that they go to have fun, spend money on girls and so on. They even can buy the TOEFL exam just as one of my relatives told me (here in UAE)!! He said “ money is talking”. I would say only 10-20 percent of them are taking it seriously , especially those who are naturalized, because original local are too spoiled to study hard until “ further notice”.
SevenSummits
“In fact most men that rape men are not even homosexuals, but heterosexual and homophobic!”, “There are direct correlations between “rape” and the glorification of violence, social frustrations (e.g. youth unempolyment, inequality, opression)” I would rather see some facts supporting these hasty assumptions.
“It is really time that they start to take a closer look at those suppressed frustrations (and please don’t tell me that there are none!) among UAE nationals and get away from this “all is perfect” illusion.” If we were perfect we wouldn’t need you guys. Besides, no single nation is perfect. There has always been frustration in every country. There is inequality and oppression in this country under the notion “nothing is perfect” and therefore can be tolerated to some extent. Dude, we’ve never been left alone. What I love about this country is that every single citizen has the right to discuss his or HER issue face to face with the ruler of the emirate or who deputizes him .For example I could go personally to see Sheik Mohammad Bin Zayed, although I may not be able to find him at any time. But I am pretty sure that eventually I can reach him to discuss my concerns which I will do sometime. He never leaves any problem unresolved.

fellow atheist said...

The problem is not the 3 criminals involved, but it is the overall skepticism in the fairness of the legal system in the UAE.

It is indeed an opportunity to make something good come out of this horrible incident. The UAE needs to show the world that it is not going to let criminals off the hook, just because of their citizenship.

Kyle said...

Se7en – I’m not here either to make a blanket accusation against anybody because that would just be blatantly wrong.

Look, we can all sit here and psychoanalyze this case, be nice, defend, present facts and even shit-face each other once in a while.

But what’s it going to achieve as a ‘net result’ to you and I at the end of day?

I address this comment from a deeper sense, in this case the victim: Alex, who endured that horrendous predicament.

Which brings me back to our psychoanalyzing this case.

As a victim, Alex will go through therapy to get his life back on track. But will he fully recover from the psychological trauma? You and many others may raise their hands and say yes, through an organized counseling session meticulously executed over a period of time, he will. I say he won’t because what he endured is like a wound. Yes, it will heal over a period of time but the scar will remain for life. And every time, Alex looks back (in his case the abuse), it will bring back the trauma he endured because some guys thought they had the right to do what they did to him while being in an adventurous mode.

Now, if you ask me how would I like this case to be dealt with in this country, I’ll tell you, I have no clue, as I have absolutely no idea of the due judicial process here being fairly new to this country. I’m also not an advocate for capital punishment (in spite of my earlier outburst) but I’m 100 percent for ‘due process’. Apart from this, I also urge the UAE Government to enforce a law; first to strongly deal with sex offenders and second, to take an even greater interest in speeding up a victim’s healing process.

This may be be a first step forward.

i*maginate said...

*Kyle, luv ur style ;-)

Editor said...

It is not true that the locals are too spoiled to study seriously. Many Al Qubaisi's, Al Daheri's, Al Hameli's, Al Masaood's, Al Hamed's, Al Mansouri's, Al Roumaiti's etc (not naturalized)study abroad. Not all locals are fortunate. The families are big and the eldest sons have priority,.... usually.
The rest have to fork it out by them self's.
I disagree with the depreciation of the local youth.
Khaled, you are in contradiction with your self: few posts back you wrote about the "mistaken local stereotype", and now you are in a way reinforcing it.
Sorry, but the locals are not worse than any others.
Children grow up the way parents guide them.
I know an Al Qubaisi boy who at age of 7 speaks besides the Arabic, English & French, plays golf, dances Latin dances, waters the flowers in the garden and loves computer drawing, loves to read and dreams about architecture and airplanes.

khaled-ad said...

"Khaled, you are in contradiction with your self: few posts back you wrote about the 'mistaken local stereotype'". If you go back, I was refering to myself, and not the Emirati in general.I was exluding myself from those who have nothing to do but goofing arounds in the shopping malls.

SevenSummits said...

In reverse order:

Kyle,
I am so with you on this one and trust me that I do know what I am talking about. Unfortunately I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time when I was 17 and ended up being the victim of attempted murder. To fix the physical damage took about 9 month, to deal with the psychological trauma maybe 9 years. My luck was that I do not recall what exactly happened and only remember waking up in the ICU with my parents, who traveled a few thousand miles that night, to be standing over my bed. God must have helped me and I can really feel for what Alex is going though right now. In addition, if this would be my son and you would give me a weapon, I couldn’t guarantee for the safety of the 35 year old assailant - that is for sure.
Currently I am suffering from a mild case of PTSD, because as a result of my work I once again managed to end up as collateral damage in the wrong place at the wrong time. (… not my damn conflict!) The best organized counseling sessions meticulously executed over a period of time can’t fix those nightmares and I am starting to feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog Day reliving the experience over and over again. So you are absolutely correct, he will never really get over it, no matter what people say.

I sincerely hope that you will never get to know the dysfunctional UAE justice system, just keep a low profile and stay away from bumper stickers. :-)

Yet our hopes for ‘due process’ may not fall into the anticipated “net result” bracket – I am not sure if you recall how they deal with the professor that tried to commit suicide a while back? Nope – chances are slim!


Fellow Atheist,
I am not sure, if we can generalize like this, because not all UAE nationals are getting a fair trial either. I just tried to stay away from that topic, because I believe that this is a purely internal affair and we (foreigners) should stay away from this.

Khaled,
In respect to your comment to Editor, I fully agree and again certainly know what I am talking about. Of course there are always exceptions and once in a while you will get a GCC national (or another spoiled rich kid from another rentier economy) that is making a serious effort to study. However plagiarism and bought papers/test results are unfortunately the norm and scholarly ethics a complete unknown. Unfortunately again, you would need to take a more holistic approach and take the entire socio-political setup into consideration. Why really should they make an effort to gain knowledge (yes, I am fully aware that it is requirement in Islam), but if you look at the reality of secured government jobs and free benefits - what will motivate them? I know some UAE nationals that are so smart that they could easily be teaching at Harvard or MIT, but instead they just end up with all their talents being wasted away.

What I told you about the “concept of rape” was based on sound scientific evidence and not on hasty assumptions.
You could say this even generally about crime and if you take a closer look you can also correlate it to the situation in the Western world. For instance, I live in a highly privileged area in the forest outside of Hamburg and it is absolutely safe. If I leave my house, I can even leave my door wide open or I can go running in the middle of the night and feel almost as safe as in Abu Dhabi (except for those wild boars). However just a few miles away in Hamburg center there are some socially deprived hotspots that I would not walk around at night without a weapon or even feel comfortable parking my car. Anyhow, I do not have any business there so no big deal. Germany does not even have a big crime problem, just compare it to the situation in let us say Rio for instance. The increase in crime is always a warning sign that something is going wrong. Anyhow AD is still different, let’s keep it that way!

… we wouldn’t need you guys Help, Khaled – you don’t need me! I am an expert for “crisis and conflict”, when you will need me, it will be too late!

I am happy to hear this about your leader and it is not the first time I am hearing something like this. In fact, even numerous conversations with some of those most deprived in AD, revealed a lot of positive things. (Unlike Dubai!) People just seem to be a lot more satisfied and less frustrated there.

Anon @ 21:50
Please crawl back into your cave (or in this case most likely big villa).

We would all be very happy, if those listed points were true and thus everything would be within the scope of international norms and nobody would have anything to complain about. In addition we also know everything about those fake and “bought” awards and somehow the global community is starting to wake up.

Who said anything about countless raped women? At least not in my post and your comprehension skills are obviously very low, matching your last extremely racist comment. Wonder what it takes that you are proud of having about 10000 sex workers (including males) in Dubai?!

I referred to “sexual assault” – something that can be verbal, visual, or anything that forces a person to join in unwanted sexual contact or attention! So stripping a woman naked and exposing her, touching her or addressing her in a rude verbal discriminating way is an act of sexual assault!

I intentionally only focused on the female victims, because it demonstrates how screwed up the system is. Two of the women are PH.D. holders and I managed to speak to both of them. One is a mother of three children that suffered an intense trauma, after their mother, who is a highly respected medical doctor (oncology), was forced to remain in Dubai for several months after being falsely accused of a criminal act. She only came to Dubai to take part in a trade fair – what a crime!
The actions of our German chancellor got her finally out and back to her children. Oh guess what, they apologized for the mistake – what a joke! She will now sue to be compensated for all those damages. I don’t even want to get into the other cases, because they are simply too ridiculous to be talked about.
Everyone knows incidents like this and SD has managed to keep us fairly informed about all those incredible things going on – let it be a bumper sticker or a trace of a minor drug in somebody's business jacket, that is totally legal in some countries.

Wonder what would happen if you came in with some coca leaves for Mate tea – no, I am not planning to try it out. :-)

Avaya said...

They deny homosexuality is a problem here and is illegal; but the number of men sexually abusing men is almost as high as men sexually abusing women. The number of gays seen walking around holding hands, and the police not doing anything...but watch the police jump down your throat if you hold hands with a member of the opposite sex. How messed up is that?

i*maginate said...

Ever since the brutal and savage Holocaust that Germany inflicted on the Jews and less priveleged, the World has instilled some kind of guilt trip on Germans which has since become ingrained in the national identity.

You'll still find racist Germans and a handful of Nazis, and on the other extreme, the majority, because of this "forgetfulness of the past" otherwise known as...wait for it... long word coming up Vergangenheitsbewaeltigung are peaceful Germans, who are tolerant of other cultures.

Still, you'll find a lot of peace-loving activists who fight for their rights and for others within the country by way of demonstrations/strikes...even riots such as the one in Hamburg recently.

You'll seldom find the kind of German who pokes their nose into other countries affairs while totally neglecting their own. A country where East and West has not merged well has its own fair share of problems - a country which used to be one of the largest economies in Europe over 10 years ago - look where it is now.

sevensummits you clearly state before you have "blacklisted" the UAE as a country you do not want to "help." What is the motive behind all these lectures then?

As for the criticism of the anon "living in a big villa" and your comment "please crawl back into your cave" - you just said you live in one of the leafiest suburbs of Hamburg. If you want to make a political statement as a German, at least show sincerity/tolerance like the rest of your fellow Germans - and a little less racism and double standards.

Anonymous said...

I wanted all you assclowns that constantly tell people to leave if they don't like things in dubai that I'm gone. I'm never coming back to your disgusting backwards country. I hope all you bitches never leave the cesspool you call home, because if you ever come to where i'm from i'll be the first to serve you a large dose of buttsecks and send your sorry asses home.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know the name of the doctor? He deserves some media coverage.

Anonymous said...

Dubai is like Victorian England - repressed sexually with arcane laws and a dysfunctional sexual deviance bubbling underneath.

They are lucky to be close to Saudi which casts the light off them - as lets face it Saudi is one of the strangest places on the planet.

nick said...

i*maginate

I think the german guilt trip should be perfectly in order, and hopefully continues for a while...

Unfortunately, the famous 'vergangenheitsbewaeltigung' is and always has been only skin deep:
German extreme right party publicly funded

I am not at all surprised by sevensummit's lecturing.
Germany's intelligentsia has fallen for its own PR propaganda of having thoroughly eradicated past demons in their own country.

According to their own logic they can today claim the moral high ground globally - because they've been through moral hell and come out of it stronger than ever before - and they do so with a straight face (Irony has never been a forte of Germans...)

Sevensummits might be right on most issues (me thinks), none of which concern him directly.

But he forgets that nobody in particular has asked for his opinion in the first place.

nick said...

And back on topic, I understand the perpetrators are on trial and if convicted will just get their real punishment meted out on them in the prison shower rooms,....but knowing jurisdiction here I wouldn't hold my breadth.

Bridget Jones said...

7S, sorry to hear what you went through when you were 17. Must have been a horrific experience :( And also, your current situation. Get better soon gurl.

Anonymous said...

Why all the big fuss ? hasn't there been several rape cases couple of weeks ago ? An indian manager doing his secretary and threatning her not to talk, more and more expat managers doing stupid stuff but nobody puts this kind of news up here on the blog.

A rape is a rape whether you were a male or a female and it's something really disgusting and unforgettable.

This country isn't stable at all

Anonymous said...

Social pecking order: 101 - the only lesson you'll ever need to know:

a french raped is not an indian raped. an englishman exploited is not an asian exploited.

moral: all people are equal unless they are emirati, european, or american. people with fancy nationalities are generally more equal to the normal people who are usually more or less equal to each other.

SevenSummits said...

What on earth are these perverts doing to this child? Making the boy relive the entire story again in front of this type of court – where people have zero compassion and may even think it is funny? I am about to puke … this is just beyond!

See article on Rape trial hits Dubai

UmmeAaiman said...

I sincerely hope the brutes get punished for what they did... but I have a question..... why this case???

In UAE you will find so much eve-teasing to the point of frustration, child molestation, sexual harassment towards women and gay men, rapes of women and men... petite filipino boys get targetted by Arabs and Pakistanis and possibly Westerners and who knows who else.. At Jumeirah beach, arab men pass women who are sitting alone and say "Keefik Enti? How are you? Are you free?" in their accented voices...

There are so many women and men here... of all races and colors who are acquainted with the issues I'm pointing at.... So many kids have been taken to dark places by strange uncles...

Will the UAE government open all those cases that were kept under heavy blankets all these years? "It has proved its efficiency" by regarding the case of Alex Robert, a French Citizen of the White race. Will they regard cases and look into the complaints of the Brown skinned races - Filipinos, Indians, Pakistanis??? Or is the Palace just bothered about its diplomatic relations with the USA, UK and European countries?

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