04 February, 2006

Fortune Tellers?

I just had a s h o c k when I browsed through today's Tabloids of Gulf News and saw an article about a Tarot Card Reader at the Wellbeing Show.
What's happening to the people in this country? Don't they know that fortune tellers are as forbidden in Islam as let's say gambling?? How can they pull this off?
Which organizer would not know that? Honestly, what's gonna be next.....
This makes me very sad.

26 comments:

samuraisam said...

I don't see the relation between fortune telling and gambling.

If you're going to get angry about something, ask why raffles aren't banned, why prostitutes roam the streets, bla bla bla bla bla, list 10,000 more items.

Futureman said...

So you're saying that examining the mud in the bottom of the cup of Turkish to tell your future is haram? Even though "everybody" does it?

Where are the Wahhabis to remind us of the "one truth" when we need them?

clayfuture said...

I agree with samuraisam. Fortune tellers are no big deal when you have multi million dirham raffles and what not going around in sin city! So let it be!

hallodubai said...

no i don't agree with you people. I don't think it is right to justify one wrong with another. Fortune Telling is an offence under Sharia and UAE law and while you may say, ok, there are prostitutes in Dubai - yes, there are! But not having a booth at the healthcare show! (Well not yet, I should say)

samuraisam said...

uhh.
why not?
If someone else doesn't get pulled over for using the hard shoulder then why should I?
Same principle.
If there is no persecution for something as equally bad / if not worse, then why is there an issue?
Why the double standards?
In my opinion, fortune telling is about as bad as selling pork in supermarkets, prostitution is something far worse, yet is virtually unchallenged in Dubai.
Last I heard there was no "fortune telling" mafia either, prostitution creates crime, disease and social problems.

Tim Newman said...

Fortune Telling is an offence under Sharia...

I'm beginning to wonder if there is anything that isn't. Weather forecasting, for example?

hallodubai said...

Islam has forbidden all practices based on erroneous beliefs such divination of evil omens, the wearing of magic amulets, fortune telling, astrology and the like. By the way, it is not only forbidden in Islam but also in the Bible (isaiah), for that matter.

So again, I don't think you can aplogize one wrong with another and I certainly won't sit still and do nothing.

Tim Newman said...

Islam has forbidden all practices based on erroneous beliefs such divination of evil omens, the wearing of magic amulets, fortune telling, astrology and the like.

Heh! The desire to be taken seriously by ones compatriots has served to outlaw such practices amongst all right-thinking folk in the West.

scarlettepimp said...

hallo? aren't ya german? please leave this subject for us muslims to ponder on and if by some weird chance you are muslim then i suggest you get a new light bulb and lighten up.

Rightisright said...

So scarlettepimp...

What you're saying is....correct me if I am wrong please...

Is that it is perfectly alright and FINE is Muslims break their own sacred laws...but is is NOT alright and punishible by long and painful DEATH if non-muslims break YOUR laws?

(Disclaimer - I realize that you did not say anything about that...this is just an example of the good old Muslim Double-Standard that the west is getting beat up about as we speak: Re: Death to Denmark and all that jazz)

scarlettepimp said...

@right is wrong: it is the same as black people calling eachother niggas. you wouldn't dare call them niggas now, would you? be it out of respect or just plain fear.

humblemuslimah said...

If you go to a fortune teller your prayers are not answered for forty days . It is a major sin in islam . Same as those cartoons the actual punishemnt for slandering the prophet and his family is death.

hallodubai said...

what makes you think I'm German? Aren't the UAE laws valid for all people living here, whether Muslims or not?

Rightisright said...

Actually, scarlette...the derogatory term is Nigger, not Nigga...Nigga is actually a term of endearment amongst "Brothas" be they black or white. And the politically correct term is "African American" not "Black". Calling someone black is very offensive. I would not do it out of respect. I do not fear anyone...I have no reason to fear because I have not done anything wrong. Right??? Or do you hold the same belief of the Violent Muslim Mob that because I am western I deserve to die? (Rhetorical Question)

Sorry Scarlette...but you can't hide behind your own double standard. If you can't follow your own religious rules, then why should the rest of us care about offending you?

Neglected-ism said...

Fortune-telling, gambling, prostitution AND lotteries are 'haraam' (forbidden) in Islam.

Yet, you see many of these around you on a daily basis. There isn't any supermarket/hypermarket that doesn't have such promotions (get free car, win 10 million dirhams etc).

There also isn't any night when the prostitutes don't hit the street by 9pm.

Just because something like fortune-telling is taking place in an official conference, should invite anyone's wrath. It's haraam enough that it IS taking place.

Like Sam said, there's so much other stuff going around. Officially or unofficially; it is still haraam.

So I don't see the issue here really. Just save yourself, that's good enough.

el condo said...

To sum up most of the above posts...

"...Fortune-telling, gambling, prostitution AND lotteries are 'haraam' (forbidden) in Islam...."

And it all takes place here. The Astrology Page is a *must have* in virtually every newspaper and magazine published from Dubai...and it's not a recent phenomenon.

But that's all right...it's only bad if the Danes do it. They should live by our rules; as for us, we have freedom of choice.

el condo said...

It's kind of saddening, isn't it, when huge masses of people think it's the government's job to make sure they go to heaven...

e3ashig said...

What is the big deal. Half the pictures posted in any newspaper are of half naked women (and men) If you dont like looking at them, dont buy the magazine. It is bizzare that you are picking on a small fortune telling ad and ignoring the far more senister [more forbidden] stuff.

Anonymous said...

Hello, I was able to visit the Tarot Reader Mona Magick at the Well Being show and she mentioned to me that if I wanted to have a spiritual consultation instead I could, as divination is against my religion too - then it would be fine cause she wouldn't use the tarot cards. In fact she talked to me just after reading for two Muslim women in full dress. I understand that Dubai has it's laws but again I look at my horoscope all the time in Dubai publications and no one complains about that unless its a double standard we are talking of here. Finally, you're right - right is right and wrong is wrong but if Dubai wants to have forms of gambling, occult (astrology), sex adverisements (suggestive clothing etc) to attract tourism all for money I may add then they better learn how to compromise! If Dubai wants to make money then they should learn how to work with things they have double standards with obviously is in demand with some people (both residents and expats) Too bad the person who posted this was offended but what was he/she affraid of? This reader didn't refer to anything bad against God/Allah or my religion in any way.

Anonymous said...

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Manifestor said...

Hello all,

I found this page when I was doing some research on attitudes to astrology in Dubai.

I am not an asrologer but an analyst and teacher of Human Design. (For your reference, the UK website is www.humandesign-uk.com).

Human Design is not about prophecy or prediction and is not Astrology. It is information about your genetic blueprint which, together with your life experience shapes your personality. It is very practical and empowering; by understanding yourself you get a strategy for more reliable decision making and it's very useful in relationships whether business or personal However, it does involve the planets at the time of your birth.

I have an opportunity to visit Dubai and would be able to do analysis for people there. I'm not sure how well this may be recieved in Dubai. I would appreciate your feedback.

Manifestor

Editor said...

Old news:

The fortuneteller was at the show 4-5 years back when I visited for the last time. I remember, there was a lady from Abu Dhabi at the ballroom of Jumeirah Beach Hotel.

Regarding the gambling: last week the Dubai World applied for gambling licence in Nevada.
http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8878278?nclick_check=1

&
".....The Islamic Shariah as universal legal system.....the Shariah finds detailed legal solutions for all problems of everyday life just as any other legal system. It is therefore a truly independent legal system."

http://www.dubaicrime.com/2008/03/islamic-shariah-as-universal-legal.html

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Anonymous said...

there are alot of things that are islamically forbidding but are legal in the UAE... this isnt Saudi.. take a chill pill! seriously!

the beauty of the UAE is that you can live both lives, the extremly conservative islamic life all the way to the extremly liberal western life and everything inbetween in HARMONY!

Anonymous said...

Hey, this is an old post although prejudices on divination continue..........

I do readings and tools I use are my intuition, astrology, oracles and tarot and would never define myself as a fortune teller because everyone has choice to what outcomes happen in their lives. People who I have read for all say how empowering it is to be given insights into their affairs when they do not have clarity at the time. Those who think it is evil most probably have never had readings and there are many levels of awareness, depending on the reader and the subject.
Why do people have to focus on their differences instead of their similarities? All these labels of separation – Muslim, Christian, Jews etc are used for acts of war. For goodness sake we are all Earthlings. It is the limited views and all the judgments, I believe, that is the problem not divination.
If one stops and does some historical research you will find that a handful of individuals in religious leadership gave divination a bad name, when if fact in ancient times it was always used by royalty for guidance in the East. In the west divination lost its favor by royalty in the Victorian era and the people followed.
Divination can be used as a powerful healing tool for the mind and emotions

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